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Peter, your last few posts have been right on target - it's obvious that you really "get it".

I think the keyword here is "collaboration". I don't use Writely because it's necessarily better than Word (at least, not yet - sorry guys!), but because of its fantastic collaborative ability. And anyone who has ever worked in a corporate environment will know what a headache it is to have multiple versions of a Word document being emailed around.

Microsoft is actually having a go in this space, too. They're working on Kahuna (new Hotmail) which is at mail.start.com. This is likely to be a Gmail-like app,so it could be that the eventual replacement for Outlook is still a Microsoft product.

I'm looking forward to exploring Ajax

Martin Tibbitts

just wanted to say thanks for this blog .
i'd often wondered about VC and how it all works .
thanks , this blog gives me a look into that world

'Net Work' vs. 'Desktop Work'

That's an interesting comparison. I really think that the driving force for all of this is that we are realzing every day what else we can compartmentalize and miniaturize. Take our mobile devices, for example. We couldn't have enough with text messages and SMS on our phones so developers added email and instant messaging. There are even phones running Office apps including Outlook, Word and Excel so you can download the attachment on your email, edit it, and reply with your edits. This is where web-based tools really can shine as it reduces the footprint of these applications. However, I don't know if current GPRS networks are stable enough to support such persistant connections. I'm sure some one else could enlighten me on this.

This sounds like what Sun has said for decades (?) now - "The Network Is The Computer".

Granted the clients are a little "fatter" than in Sun's vision; but most of the commonly used functions are transitioning to the Web, which means in another, say, five years, many current "fat" clients could probably be replaced with "thin" network computers and hardly anyone would notice or complain for day to day office work.

Yes, creatives and those who really need a lot of data processing power will still want a traditional desktop computer, but many others will get along fine without it.

Yes SUN started saying this in the 80s' (and they were right), but having the apps in the cloud is only one facet of the network being the computer.

like most geeks I was extremely excited yesterday, this was before watching the 45 minute Sun infomercial - quite the let down

maybe it is going to take something like writely or ning

Peter,
While you make a great point in saying that the productivity bottleneck is in the connection between people, positing that a Net Office is the panacea is non-sequitur...wouldn't a solution that seamlessly enable people to collaborate from within their current productivity applications make a lot more sense? Such a solution would provide a "collaborative productivity" aspect without expecting people to move out of their familiar user experiences...
Your thoughts on this?
Sumanth

So I'm curious. Doesn't every stateful AJAX application have server-side components that are written in web application server environments---Java/Tomcat, PHP, and so on? It seems to me AJAX just defines the client architecture (Javascript, CSS, etc.) and communication model (XML) to the server, and hence I don't grok the rationale for excluding servers like Zimbra and Exchange. Granted I have a vested interest, but I think this would make more sense if you defined what you mean by AJAX if your constaining the server as well as the client.

Great blog!

I don't get why this is a good thing. Why would I limit my ability to do word processing or spreadsheet work to when I am on the network? Also, isn't this mainframe computing for a new generation? Why do those economics make sense?

There is a lot of good that comes from the decreasing costs of communication, but trying to compete with Microsoft Word through a server-based service sounds like competing with pet stores through ecommerce - a poor fit. The good fits are where money is to be made.

After re-reading (learn to preview!) I realize that my previous post seems to focus on the straw man (web clones) that Peter strikes down at the top of the post.

But I would still ask, what is brought to the table by moving word processing to the web? I understand the collaborative increase from Writely, but it's not clear to me why an application that is dead without connectivity is superior to one that can use connectivity as-needed (which seemsp arallel to the mainframe vs client-server dichotomy of the 80s). And as the connectivity-only platform, why is the web browser the platform for work, rather than web services bringing more richness to client-side applications on demand, and when available?

An obvious p.s. to my prior comment:
Servers can be hosted so that the enduser's experience is entirely AJAX. Ultimately the end-user's experience is not impacted by where the associated server is hosted (on-premises, by a 3rd-party, or by the AJAX app. vendor itself). Sorry I couldn't get it right the first time.

I'm a huge proponent of web-based collaboration - but why office suites? Are you really going to collaboratively edit a document on the web?

Don't get me wrong, I hate the software business model (I'm founder of a hosted collaboration technology for disease research) but "collaboration" is about sharing your documents, ideas, discoveries with others - not about collaborating on building out documents.

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