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jim Forbes

Peter
Amen, brother. Why don't BDchools teach 'how to set realistic evaluations?"
Best wishes

Jim Forbes

Joe Agliozzo

"limited management team, pre-launch, working alpha" + "had a term sheet at $20M when we met" = "BUBBLE"

As a 1999 era venture funded entrepreneur, I feel like I've seen this movie before, and I know how it ends.

However, I do agree with your position in the post, which I would restate and condense as "get real and serve an actual customer".

How this equates to a $20M pre money for a an alpha product with no revenue and no actual customers, especially in this era where you can build an "alpha" for less than $50K is the strange part.

Lot of execution risk for a $20M pre isn't there? and a deal like this implies a MINIMUM $200M exit (without more funding - unlikely), how frequent are those deals in the last couple years?

Paul Jardine

Is there a feeling on the part of the VC, that if you tell a focused story, they can add value, by seeing the big picture. If the company is pitching the big story, then it's stepping on the VCs toes, and not giving them an obvious way to feel like they're helping.
The focused story; 'we're just looking at this small market but obviously we'd be over the moon if you think our simple little application can do so much, you VCs are just so smart, why didn't we think about that. I guess that's why they pay you the big bucks!'
$20M vs $10M. Just so long as you're sure it's not vanity....
I don't disagree that focus is good, but it's also better to say less than you know, and make sure you say less than you think the VC knows.

anthropocentric

Peter,

This is the first blog posting of yours that I have ever read - I just happened to stumble onto your blog via a Google search.

Wow! Keep up the great work. Your posts are fascinating and you are an excellent communicator.

I wish you all the best.

Steve Sarakas

This the best blog I have yet found, for several reasons. I have been studying VC firms for the past couple months. Now I have a dumb question...or is it a comment? Everywhere I go, they never fail to mention how many bazillion plans, summaries, pitches they all get every month. It must be true. But here's what - I'm bootstrapping a startup, now I can see this exploding, and for the first time I began to think seriously about EF'ing.

The problem is, I can't help but get this picture from all these VC websites that there's typically a grad student sitting at a desk somewhere just throwing stuff into baskets, going "Oh sure, another one! HA! Here's a guy that wants to do 100M in four years - yeah sure. Here's another guy that has a cure for cancer and already has FDA approval, yeah sure. Seen one, you've seen 'em all."

I can't imagine there's really that much cynicism, except I already got splashed with it when I approached one group. Good grief, they told me they are watching a hundred opportunities. I didn't even finish disclosure. My mind is stuck in bootstrapping, it's a lot for me to post this. Thanks for allowing me to.

Michael

Reply to the previous post - the best thing you can do is to keep making progress and increase your company's value. My mantra when dealing with VCs is 'don't let the bozos drag you down', as Guy Kawasaki has put it so aptly ;-) If they had the skills to innovate and invent they would probably start their own businesses, so don't get discouraged when someone tells you that your business doesn't have a future. Get nervous if everyone does... Yes, VCs ARE getting hundreds of proposals, but that's the nature of the game. They are probably also missing out on good deals and kick themselves later on - someone must have said no to Yahoo, Google, eBay, etc. - they don't tell you how often they stroke out, do they?

Raising money is a bit like playing poker. First, make sure you've got a good hand in case you have to actually show your cards. Then go there and tell them as much as they need to know. Be focused (of course) and don't embellish or sugar-coat. VCs can smell BS 10 miles against the wind - they do this hundreds of times a year, you do it maybe once every few years - don't try to fool them. But don't provide too much information either - the more you give them the more reasons they find to say no. Forget about the business plan - focus on the POC first. I've had VCs and angels openly admit that they don't read business plans and they don't care that much as long as you know what you are doing and know your market. It's more important to get your first customers and get a good team together. Which is very hard, because the team you put together in the first 6 months will define the DNA of your company - your values, your identity, your chance of success.

Try to get a buzz going and talk to seveal VCs at the same time. VCs love to invest in deals others are interested in as well (btw, Donald Trump seems a master of creating the 'buzz'). Once you get a term sheet DO NOT STOP LOOKING! That's a huge trap many entrepreneurs fall into - it's psychological because we all hate raising money since it distracts us from actually getting any work done. VCs love to drag things out as long as you let them - the more desperate you get the better. The best way to get a deal wrapped up is to have someone else waiting to invest, so keep looking until the check is in your hand.

Finally, make sure you raise enough - don't be paranoid about giving up equity - the worst thing that can happen to you is to run out of money and having to raise more before hitting your milestones. Nobody wants to throw good money after bad money - this kills many start-ups. Anyway, I also recommend Paul Graham's blog - he provides great insights in how 'the game' is being played and how to build successful startups. Good luck!

Steve Sarakas

Great, thanks. Had a look at PG's blog.

Jeremy Fain

Peter, in the value-halving list, I would have added "empower". It seems that the conclusion of this pretty interesting, and very well written, post could be that companies best valued are customer-centric companies rather than techno-minded ones. This is not so new after all.

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